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 Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: Judas Iscariot, saint or sinner ? |
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| Quote: | Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John make up the four accepted Gospels of the Christian New Testament. Now a new gospel has been unveiled by the National Geographic Society -- one that focuses on the story of Judas Iscariot.
To most Christians, Judas is seen as a traitor, the disciple who betrayed Jesus to the Romans for 30 pieces of silver. But a newly restored papyrus document dating to the 2nd century AD portrays a very different man. Judas is shown as Jesus' best friend, asked by Jesus himself to betray his identity to fulfill the prophecy and liberate his soul to ascend to heaven.
The story of how this gospel was found, and the international effort to authenticate, conserve, and translate it, has been chronicled in the new book by Herb Krosney called The Lost Gospel.
The leather-bound papyrus codex, believed to have been translated from the original ancient Greek to the Coptic language around 300 AD, was found in the 1970s in a cave in the desert near El Minya, Egypt. It then circulated among antiquities traders, moving from Egypt to Europe to the United States. The codex languished in a safe deposit box on Long Island, N.Y., for 16 years before being bought in 2000 by Zurich-based antiquities dealer Frieda Nussberger-Tchacos.
When attempts to resell the manuscript fell through, Tchacos -- alarmed by the codex’s rapidly deteriorating state -- transferred it to the Maecenas Foundation for Ancient Art in Basel, Switzerland, in February 2001 for conservation and translation.
Rodolphe Kasser, one of the world’s leading Coptic scholars, was recruited to reconstruct the manuscript and to transcribe and translate the text. The 66-page manuscript contains not only the Gospel of Judas but also a text titled James (also known as First Apocalypse of James), a letter of Peter to Philip and a fragment of a fourth text scholars for now are calling the Book of Allogenes.
The National Geographic Society unveiled the only known copy of the Gospel of Judas on Thursday. The full story of the discovery and restoration of the Gospel of Judas can be seen on the National Geographic Channel. The first showing is Sunday, April 9, at 8 PM ET.
Additionally, the Gospel of Judas is featured on the May cover of National Geographic magazine. Pages of the codex will be on display at the National Geographic Society, and will eventually reside at the Coptic Museum in Cairo, Egypt.
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Poor Judas everyone hates him even though Jesus was the one who told Judas to betray him. He's one of the hatest man in history !
I think he couldn't take seeing Jesus torchered and people hating him so he commited suicide.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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poooooorrr himm!!
freaky and howdya bcame a traitor??
and never mind that "Q"
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I was taught that Judas was fulfulling the prophecy of God. That he had to do it according to the scriptures.
My dad said there are a lot of secrets not revealed to the public in the Vatican City. The Church doesn't want people to know the difference so we will stick to our Faith. |
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He played a important part in God's holy plan. That's what they said in the news.
Why ? Why are they keeping it a secret ?
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| The ALLSTARSCLUB wrote: | | I was taught that Judas was fulfulling the prophecy of God. That he had to do it according to the scriptures. |
what scriptures?
Poor Judas
people still hates him even in the future
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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for me, judas did the right thing...
y?
jesus died to save our sins right?
because of who--->JUDAS |
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Yeah... there is no blame for anyone. If you read the bible, it says Judas follow the scriptures of God.
I have a really cool illustrated bible. I study bible from this book because it is written in simple English easy to understand for kids.
Here is the link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0840776527/qid=1144825302/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/103-8283476-0991856?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
The hardcover I have is quite different.
Here is the story when Jesus was eating the Last Supper (Passover Meal) with His Disciples:
| Quote: | When Jesus was eating with his 12 disciples that evening, he said, " One of you will surely hand me over to my enemies."
The disciples were very sad, and each one said to Jesus, "Lord, you can't mean me!"
He answered, "One of you men who has eaten with me from this dish will betray me. The Son of Man will die, as the *SCRIPTURES* say. But it's going to be terrible for the one who betrays me! That man would be better off if he had never been born." |
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| Quote: | | Why are they keeping it a secret ? |
There is a huge library in the Vatican Church (Catholic) where only the Pope has the key to some of the books. Only some! The keys is hand over from one Pope to the next Pope and only him can go inside. It is said there are a lot of records kept in there from the sunken city of Alexandria which lies in Egypt. |
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This is so ecxiting ! Better tell my mum! My mum said they keep it as a secret because they're old fashion and they didn't like Judas ?
So they're not allowed to tell anyone ?
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| Quote: | My mum said they keep it as a secret because they're old fashion and they didn't like Judas ?
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I don't think that's quite true. Yes, they are very orthodox in their beliefs, they are the Catholic priests anyway and probably the 1st Christian church ever. Some people didn't like the teachings and started other Christian groups - Protestants for example is in 'protest' of the Catholic church!
The Catholic Church is full of politics and I believe there are things they never will tell the public. My family and I are Catholics but we practice what we believe accordingly and don't agree with some.
My dad is a doctor of spirituality and he studied the bible among many other religions. He said the bible is the interpretation of human beings. What was written about Jesus in the bible was done like 80 years after His death. What is more important is our faith in God and the teachings we believe in.
Today, we celebrate GOOD FRIDAY, a day when Jesus was crucified. It's a solemn day and in my house, our cross is cover with a white cloth as sign of mourning.
Here's the latest news:
Pope Calls Judas Double-Crosser in Homily
| Quote: | ROME - Pope Benedict XVI Thursday recounted the Biblical betrayal of Jesus by Judas, calling the apostle a double-crosser for whom "money was more important than communion with Jesus, more important than God and his love."
Benedict's traditional depiction of Judas came during his Holy Thursday homily, a week after the release of an ancient Egyptian Coptic text dubbed the "Gospel of Judas," in which Judas is portrayed not as Jesus' betrayer but as his confidant who was doing his will by handing him over to his enemies to be crucified.
Holy Thursday marks the start of a series of solemn ceremonies in the Catholic Church in which the faithful relive Jesus' suffering, crucifixion and death — and then his resurrection on Easter Sunday.
During the service, the holy father humbly washed the feet of 12 men, re-enacting Jesus' washing of his apostles' feet during the Last Supper and saying the act cleansed the "filth" of mankind.
As a choir's hymn filled St. John Lateran Basilica in Rome, Benedict poured water from a golden vase over each of the men's feet and scrubbed each one dry in an act of humility and service.
In his homily, Benedict said Jesus washed his disciples' feet to purify them so they could join him at the Last Supper, the meal which the faithful believe Jesus shared with his apostles before he was betrayed by his apostle Judas and crucified.
"God comes down and becomes a slave; he washes our feet so we can be at his table," Benedict said. "The bath in which he washes us is his love, ready to confront death. Only love has the purifying force that takes away our filth and elevates us to God."
Benedict's homily adhered to the traditional portrayal of Judas as betraying Jesus.
The "Gospel of Judas" tells a far different tale from the four gospels in the New Testament. It portrays Judas as a favored disciple who was given special knowledge by Jesus — and turned him in at Jesus' request. It portrays Judas as being told spiritual secrets that the other apostles were not.
The Egyptian Coptic text, one of several ancient documents found in the Egyptian desert in 1970, was preserved and translated by a team of scholars. The text was made public last week.
Benedict presided over another Mass dedicated to priests during which he recalled the sacrifice of a cleric slain in Turkey.
Benedict read a letter written by Rev. Andrea Santoro in which the Italian prelate spoke of his willingness to offer his own body for the sake of preaching Catholicism in largely Muslim Turkey.
Santoro, 60, was shot and killed Feb. 5 while he prayed in his parish in the Black Sea city of Trabzon. Witnesses said the killer, a 16-year-old boy, screamed "Allahu Akbar," Arabic for "God is great," before firing two bullets into Santoro's back.
Benedict quoted Santoro as saying in his letter that he had chosen to live in Turkey to be among its people, "lending" his body to Christ to do so.
Santoro's slaying occurred at the height of unrest in the Muslim world over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad published in Europe. Top church officials have called Santoro a martyr.
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We are gonna be Chatolics. Thugh we do not celebrate Good Friday like you we are still very religous.
So they don't believe the Gospel of Judas ?
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| Quote: | We are gonna be Chatolics. Thugh we do not celebrate Good Friday like you we are still very religous.
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Because of our travels, we don't attend church often and there are some churches that we don't feel the holiness of the mass. So we say our prayers and read the bibles at home. You don't have to be religious to be with GOD. HE is everywhere and in your heart if you believe in him.
I felt sorry for the priest that was shot dead too. He was brave to go into enemy territory. It's a shame nowadays that some crazy people are bombing churches and mosques. |
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Poor guy... He was very brave.
In Indonesia they bomb Churches aswell. Once my mum told my cousin to miss Church for a week.
Yeah God is everywhere. HE answered some of my prayers.
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